PC-HELP.CZ

Dobrý den. Nedávno jsem si koupil grafiku Ati Sapphire Radeon HD 6790 1Gb 256-bit, Některé hry se nepochopitelně sekají, např. Far Cry 3, nebo Battlefield 3 - jdou na plné detaily v rozlišení 1920x1080, ale Saints Row 3 se trochu seká i na střední detaily, stejně tak Mafia II, Alan Wake, či Driver San Francisco. Jediná možnost, která mě napadá je slabý zdroj. Je možné, že by za to byl opravdu zodpovědný zdroj, nebo může jít o vadu grafické karty(v tom případ je to ale zvláštní, že např. Far Cry 3 jede na plno...)? Ještě zdůrazní, že např. Mafia II mě jela na staré grafice NVidia GeForce 9800 GT v pohodě na plné detaily... Moje sestava: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3,16 GHz, 4Gb RAM, Ati Sapphire Radeon HD 6790, Zdroj- Fortron ATX-400PNF 400W
Předem děkuji za odpovědi.

Zdroj je v pohodě. Spíš to bude špatnou optimalizací her pro konkrétní driver. Zvlášť Mafia II.

To jsem si ze začátku myslel taky, jenže snad kažná druhá hra se seká...

Stáhni si HW monitor a dej sem screen s teplotama.

Procesor má při hraní her teplotu kolem 48°C, grafika kolem 72°C, ještě mě napadlo, že by za to mohl něst odpovědnost HDD...

Možné to je. Koukni na něj programem Crystal Disk Info.

Jako Stav disku tam mám Pozor, teplota 35 C

Petron píše:Jako Stav disku tam mám Pozor, teplota 35 C

Ahoj. Dej sem ten log. Kopírovat a potom CTRL+V do tvého dalšího příspěvku.

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OS : Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x86)
Date : 2013/06/16 10:01:27

-- Controller Map ----------------------------------------------------------
+ ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA]
- SAMSUNG SP0812C ATA Device
+ ATA Channel 1 (1) [ATA]
- ST3250318AS ATA Device
- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24LS50 ATA Device
+ Řadič úložiště Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (řada ICH7) s rozhraním Serial ATA - 27C0 [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
- ATA Channel 1 (1)

-- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) SAMSUNG SP0812C : 80,0 GB [0/0/0, pd1]
(2) ST3250318AS : 250,0 GB [1/1/0, pd1] - st

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(1) SAMSUNG SP0812C
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Model : SAMSUNG SP0812C
Firmware : SU100-34
Serial Number : S01UJ10Y199040
Disk Size : 80,0 GB (8,4/80,0/80,0/80,0)
Buffer Size : 8192 KB
Queue Depth : 1
# of Sectors : 156368016
Rotation Rate : Neznámy údaj
Interface : Serial ATA
Major Version : ATA/ATAPI-7
Minor Version : ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D version 0
Transfer Mode : SATA/150
Power On Hours : 9723 hod.
Power On Count : 5381 krát
Temparature : 31 C (87 F)
Health Status : Pozor
Features : S.M.A.R.T., AAM, 48bit LBA
APM Level : ----
AAM Level : FEFEh [ON]

-- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
01 100 100 _51 000000000000 Počet chyb čtení
03 100 100 _25 000000001000 Čas na roztočení ploten
04 _89 _89 __0 000000002E3C Počet spuštění/zastavení
05 _99 _99 _11 000000000004 Počet přemapovaných sektorů
07 100 100 _51 000000000000 Počet chybných hledání
08 100 100 _15 000000000000 Čas potřebný na vyhledání
09 _99 _99 __0 00000011CDCF Hodin v činnosti
0A 100 100 _51 000000000000 Počet opakovaných pokusů o roztočení ploten
0B 100 100 __0 000000000001 Počet pokusů o překalibrování
0C _95 _95 __0 000000001505 Počet cyklů zapnutí zařízení
C2 145 _76 __0 00000000001F Teplota
C3 100 100 __0 000000013DC9 Počet oprav chybného čtení
C4 _99 _99 __0 000000000004 Počet udalostí s číslem realokování sektorů
C5 100 100 __0 000000000000 Počet podezřelých sektorů
C6 100 100 __0 000000000000 Počet neopravitelných sektorů
C7 200 200 __0 000000000017 Počet chyb v kontrolním součtu UltraDMA
C8 100 100 _51 000000000000 Počet chyb při zápisu sektorů
C9 100 100 _51 000000000000 Počet chyb při čtení programů z disku

-- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
000: 045A 3FFF C837 0010 8856 022A 003F FFFF 0000 0000
010: 5330 3155 4A31 3059 3139 3930 3430 2020 2020 2020
020: 0003 4000 0004 5355 3130 302D 3334 5341 4D53 554E
030: 4720 5350 3038 3132 4320 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 0000 2F00
050: 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110
060: FC90 0951 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000
070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0002 0000 0000 0000
080: 00FE 001E 346B 7F01 4003 3C69 3E01 4003 20FF 000E
090: 000E 0000 FFFE 0000 FEFE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
100: FC90 0951 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 50F0 0000
110: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
120: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 0000
130: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
140: FFFF 0400 1700 0000 0000 9A00 0300 2400 0000 0000
150: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
220: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 BFA5

-- SMART_READ_DATA ---------------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 0F 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 07
010: 00 64 64 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 04 32 00 59 59 3C
020: 2E 00 00 00 00 00 05 33 00 63 63 04 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 07 0F 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 25
040: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 32 00 63 63 CF
050: CD 11 00 00 00 00 0A 33 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 0B 12 00 64 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32
070: 00 5F 5F 05 15 00 00 00 00 00 C2 22 00 91 4C 1F
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 1A 00 64 64 C9 3D 01 00 00
090: 00 00 C4 32 00 63 63 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 12
0A0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 30 00 64 64 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 3E 00 C8 C8 17 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 C8 0A 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C9 0A
0D0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B8 0B 00 1B
170: 03 00 01 00 01 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C1

-- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 19
010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00
020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 07 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 0F
040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00
070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 00 00 00 00 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
090: 00 00 C4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 00
0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 00 00 00 00 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 C8 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C9 33
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4C

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(2) ST3250318AS
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Model : ST3250318AS
Firmware : CC44
Serial Number : 9VM0X6JS
Disk Size : 250,0 GB (8,4/137,4/250,0/250,0)
Buffer Size : 8192 KB
Queue Depth : 32
# of Sectors : 488395055
Rotation Rate : 7200 RPM
Interface : Serial ATA
Major Version : ATA8-ACS
Minor Version : ATA8-ACS version 4
Transfer Mode : SATA/300
Power On Hours : 9916 hod.
Power On Count : 15262 krát
Temparature : 33 C (91 F)
Health Status : Pozor
Features : S.M.A.R.T., AAM, 48bit LBA, NCQ
APM Level : ----
AAM Level : D0D0h [ON]

-- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
01 117 _98 __6 000007443A34 Počet chyb čtení
03 _97 _97 __0 000000000000 Čas na roztočení ploten
04 _98 _98 _20 000000000A08 Počet spuštění/zastavení
05 100 100 _36 000000000002 Počet přemapovaných sektorů
07 _83 _60 _30 00010D3532B3 Počet chybných hledání
09 _89 _89 __0 0000000026BC Hodin v činnosti
0A 100 100 _97 000000000000 Počet opakovaných pokusů o roztočení ploten
0C _86 _86 _20 000000003B9E Počet cyklů zapnutí zařízení
B7 100 100 __0 000000000000 Neznámý
B8 100 100 _99 000000000000 Ukončovacích chyb
BB __1 __1 __0 00000000010C Ohlášeno neopravitelných chyb
BC 100 _86 __0 00DE00E00105 Časový limit příkazu
BD 100 100 __0 000000000000 Vysoká rychlost zápisu
BE _67 _57 _45 000025130021 Teplota toku vzduchu
C2 _33 _43 __0 000E00000021 Teplota
C3 _54 _36 __0 000007443A34 Počet oprav chybného čtení
C5 100 100 __0 000000000000 Počet podezřelých sektorů
C6 100 100 __0 000000000000 Počet neopravitelných sektorů
C7 200 200 __0 00000000000A Počet chyb v kontrolním součtu UltraDMA
F0 100 253 __0 7AF900003951 Čas nastavování hlaviček - v hodinách
F1 100 253 __0 00007C54BB06 Total Host Writes
F2 100 253 __0 0000C4B31E76 Total Host Reads

-- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
000: 0C5A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000
010: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 3956 4D30 5836 4A53
020: 0000 4000 0004 4343 3434 2020 2020 5354 3332 3530
030: 3331 3841 5320 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 0000 2F00
050: 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110
060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000
070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 0506 0000 0048 0040
080: 01F0 0029 346B 7F61 4163 3469 BE01 4163 207F 0017
090: 0017 0000 FFFE 0000 D0D0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
100: 512F 1D1C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 5000 C500
110: 14FF 3485 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 401E
120: 401C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 5970
130: 1D1C 5970 1D1C 2020 0002 0140 0100 5000 3C06 3C0A
140: 0000 003C 0000 0008 0000 0000 004F 0280 0000 0000
150: 000A 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 3F00 8000
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 103F 0000 0000 0000
210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1C20 0000 0000
220: 0000 0000 1010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 5BA5

-- SMART_READ_DATA ---------------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 0A 00 01 0F 00 75 62 34 3A 44 07 00 00 00 03 03
010: 00 61 61 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 32 00 62 62 08
020: 0A 00 00 00 00 00 05 33 00 64 64 02 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 07 0F 00 53 3C B3 32 35 0D 01 00 00 09 32
040: 00 59 59 BC 26 00 00 00 00 00 0A 13 00 64 64 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 00 56 56 9E 3B 00 00 00
060: 00 00 B7 00 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B8 32
070: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BB 32 00 01 01 0C
080: 01 00 00 00 00 00 BC 32 00 64 56 05 01 E0 00 DE
090: 00 00 BD 3A 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BE 22
0A0: 00 43 39 21 00 13 25 00 00 00 C2 22 00 21 2B 21
0B0: 00 00 00 0E 00 00 C3 1A 00 36 24 34 3A 44 07 00
0C0: 00 00 C5 12 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 10
0D0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 3E 00 C8 C8 0A
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 F0 00 00 64 FD 51 39 00 00 F9
0F0: 7A 2B F1 00 00 64 FD 06 BB 54 7C 00 00 00 F2 00
100: 00 64 FD 76 1E B3 C4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 82 02 00 7B
170: 03 00 01 00 01 35 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 03 03 03 03 03 03 03
190: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 EC B5 21 C4 7B 20 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 01 00 B1 06 06 BB 54 7C EF 2F 00 00
1C0: 76 1E B3 C4 B7 65 10 00 00 00 00 00 6E 84 1E 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2D 06 00 00 60 00 04 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05

-- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 01 00 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00
010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 14 00 00 00 00
020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 07 1E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00
040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 61 00 00 00 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 B7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B8 63
070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BB 00 00 00 00 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 BC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
090: 00 00 BD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BE 2D
0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C2 00 00 00 00 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 C5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C6 00
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 F1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F2 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 60

V těch discích bude nějaký problém. Konroluj Počet chyb v kontrolním součtu UltraDMA, jestli se hodnota nezvyšuje.

Jak jsi nakládal s ovladači při výměně grafiky?

Normálně jsem odinstaloval ty staré na NVidii a nainstaloval nejnovější s oficiální stránky AMD...

pri vymene grafiku ruzne znacky se dela komlet reinstal win ...pokud bys menil nvidii za nvidii tak je to ok ale tady si vymenil jabka za hrusky takze reinstal pouze ovladacu nepomuze je potreba komplet cisty system

MiliNess píše:Neříkem tady prosím takový pí*oviny, prosím. Děkuji.

d1amond píše:Protože jsou to *******. Mám v PC oba drivery, grafiky měním dle potřeby a nikdy jsem kvůli tomu nemusel reinstalovat systém. A to na jakémkoliv PC, kde jsem kdy měnil karty.

proc bych nemohl napsat svou zkusenost kterou vy neunesete pres srdce

Petron píše:Jenomže procesor by měl zatím sám o sobě na hry stačit, kámoš má Core 2 Duo s taktem 3,0 GHz a grafiku 1 Gb 128-bit a zvládá mu to např. Saints Row 3 na plno uplně v pohodě...

misto petidenniho laborovani coby kdyby ..od r...u ? ...uz jsi mohl mit system nekolikrat reinstalovany a testovat